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 Post subject: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:34 am 
I am thinking about buying one of these two hitch receivers

Draw-Tite Trailer Hitch for Honda Fit 2010 - 24826

or Hidden Hitch Trailer Hitch for Honda Fit 2010 - 60218

(is it me, or do they look pretty much identical?)

And then buying one of these two carriers...

20x48 Cargo Carrier For 1-1/4" Trailer Hitch Receiver Surco Products Hitch Cargo Carrier 52017

20x48 Cargo Carrier Fits 1-1/4" Trailer Hitch Receiver Hitch Draw-Tite Hitch Cargo Carrier 6500

I'm debating whether or not to keep them both Draw-Tite brand... since I like to think that products from the same brand SHOULD work better together (coincidentally, the draw-tite combo is the least expensive), but that's not always true. And plus, the Surco carrier looks a little better aesthetically.

My question is... would this be enough to haul a Ruckus?!?

Up until now, I was partially loading it into my Fit. I would lift the rear of the Ruck and roll it in. Then leave the front wheel on my rear bumper. Finally bungee cording the hatch down on top. Damn stock handlebars prevent me from rolling it in completely.

But the bigger problem is that the Ruckus weighs almost 200 lbs and lifting that rear end is a pain in the ass. In fact, last week, I didn't put enough strength into lifting it, so I had to put it back down on the ground before making another attempt. But when I put it down, the Ruckus and I were tipping over... and so it (along with me) fell over. Lucky for me, I fell forward so it didn't crush me. Unlucky for me, my Nolan helmet was on the handle bar, so the faceshield got scratched and it broke one of the pieces that attach the shield (I've since gotten a replacement piece).

I figured, it would be easier if I got a carrier. The only reason I'm not going with a trailer is because I need to be able to put it somewhere when I take the Ruckus to work (like in my Fit). The "trailer-in-a-bag" and "port-a-chopper" trailers are expensive, $1200+ and $1460+, respectively. The carrier is only $150. There are a few other issues for myself, but I won't go into detail for the time being.

(I posted the first half of this on the Fit forum too)


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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:42 am 
you would be exceeding the maximum tongue weight rating of either of those hitches
i would not recommend hauling a ruck in a 1.25" hitch unless it was a small trailer

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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:45 am 
Quick note... there are are no 2" hitches for my car.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe my only option is to continue partially loading the Ruckus in the Fit.

If I go with a trailer, I need one that can be quickly detached and stored IN my Fit (garage at home is fine, but no place at work). The two trailers I mentioned can be stored, but it is actually time consuming for me to do that when I get to work and before I come home every day (especially when I'm running late for work, or tired after work). Or at least any day I can take my ruckus to work.

If you're wondering why I don't just ride the Ruckus only, it's because I do deliveries and there are occasions I'll need a larger vehicle (multiple large orders), so I need my car. It's so bothersome that I can't predict which one I'll use more.

*sigh* back to square one, i guess.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:40 am 
How about this? I bet you could tip this sucker up on it's rear if you could park in front if a wall and then park your little car in the spot behind it.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... _7769_7769

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:22 pm 
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How about this? I bet you could tip this sucker up on it's rear if you could park in front if a wall and then park your little car in the spot behind it.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... _7769_7769
I've seen a few similar, but cheaper versions.

But the issue is parking at work. I only have street parking. They're all in front of businesses (considering the snobbishness of some of the residents around here, someone would call the cops if I left a trailer detached in a parking space). And while the restaurant I work at does have a little bit of storage room in the back, trailers would never make it back there because you can only access it via walkways which are too narrow (at one point, you have to walk sideways to get in). So that's why any trailer/hauler/carrier has to basically fit (quickly) into my Fit during working hours.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:56 pm 
Buy the hitch and have a 2inch receiver welded on. Then buy one of these http://www.amazon.com/Masterbuilt-HMXCR ... ycle+hitch

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:15 pm 
http://www.stingertrailer.com

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:21 pm 
here is one for $120 shipped... http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Industri ... bs_auto_12

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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:30 pm 
freejack5555 wrote:
Buy the hitch and have a 2inch receiver welded on. Then buy one of these http://www.amazon.com/Masterbuilt-HMXCR ... ycle+hitch

There would still be the issue of a 200lb max weight for the hitch. Changing the receiver doesn't change the max weight. You'd have to change the entire hitch.

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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:12 pm 
That stinger trailer does look nice, but doesn't look like it would fit in my Fit.... even if it did, it doesn't come apart to make it easier to load into my Fit (it weighs 180, so it would be just a bit more than lifting the back of the ruckus onto the Fit).

Curses man... the Ruckus is right on the threshold of tongue weight limit.... so freaking close!!!


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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:35 am 
unbolt the handlebars and fold them out of the way so you can GET it in the fit.

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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:58 pm 
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unbolt the handlebars and fold them out of the way so you can GET it in the fit.


I made one attempt at that bolt... and that sucker was TIGHT. I didn't put much thought after that since I was running late for work.

Here's a question... would you think it matters much to the "spray" of dirt from the rear tire if I trimmed the lip off the fender? I was trying to imagine if the tire would still be able to throw mud/rain water onto my back if that was trimmed off. Because I would have to trim it before it interferes with my driving (manual trans), since I would need to roll the rear wheel right up to the back of my center armrest. I could take it off completely, but aside from some needed wire ties for a few tubes... it would effectively expose the carb and other parts (and maybe even my back) directly to anything the tire might pick up and throw.

After that, I need to consider how to keep the Ruckus upright while inside the hatch. With the front sticking out, I have the frame (just in front of the gas tank) resting on hatch opening. Because they're both relatively wide and flat, it holds the Ruckus upright with minimal bungee cords (mostly for when I turn). Maybe I'll need additional straps.

Maybe that's what I'll do today... fidget with the Ruckus. I had bought an aftermarket handlebar and clamp... but dreading dealing with all the wires and detaching the speedo from the stock handlebar. And when I held up the parts to the Ruckus, it felt like it still too tall to get through the hatch without unbolting it.

Of course, this still doesn't lend much to my back. If I can get the Ruckus to fit inside completely, maybe I'll make a ramp (out of some 2x4s or something). A ramp wouldn't be as useful with the front sticking out, because the front would still be on the ramp meaning I'd have to wiggle the ramp out.

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So I messed with the Ruckus. Unbolted the handlebars to see what I could do... the wires initially didn't give enough slack to actually get the handlebar off the top of the fork. I kept tugging it until it did... I hope I didn't damage any wires by doing that. Then I put the aftermarket bars on... almost the same height, maybe 1-1/2 to 2" lower.

Then I did some measuring... and realized that even with the bars off, I'd have a hell of a time loading it, because it can't roll in vertically tail first. Because from the bottom of the front wheel to the top of the fork is taller than the opening of my hatch. Which means it would have to go in sideways... and that's a LOT of work. It was hard when I had the sales guy help me they day I bought it... going to be harder by myself.

With the bars off, I MIGHT be able to roll it in front first (since I can get the front wheel in before the top of the fork reaches the top of the hatch), but with the front wheel's tendency to turn... it's going to be hard keeping a good grip on the Ruckus and getting it to go where I need it to. I think I need the ramp even more so now.


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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:29 pm 
Trailer in a bag which fits in your trunk. Takes 10 minutes to disassemble the trailer. However this trailer is quite expensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zps101hQiPk

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 Post subject: Re: hauling a Ruckus on a Fit?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:40 pm 
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Trailer in a bag which fits in your trunk. Takes 10 minutes to disassemble the trailer. However this trailer is quite expensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zps101hQiPk

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oh yeah, i know its $$$.

I even saw a video on it... the guy was fussing quite a bit with it. sure, it fits in my Fit... but too pricey and annoying to deal with.


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